tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14951746.post115019125288186384..comments2023-11-05T03:50:59.840-08:00Comments on trivialTV: Where There's a Series Kill, There's Dismaydr. tv (mike vicic)http://www.blogger.com/profile/07565772066297951029noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14951746.post-1150264900480947252006-06-13T23:01:00.000-07:002006-06-13T23:01:00.000-07:00re: Eckholdthis name brings up the always tricky q...re: Eckholdt<BR/><BR/>his name brings up the always tricky question of guest vs. regular performer. he did appear in three early eps of ''That's Life'' (CBS, 2000; 32 eps aired) as a guest. personally, i think it's hard to justify a series kill based on a single (or small number) of guest appearances.<BR/><BR/>my narrow definition is also self-serving since i don't have guest appearances in my database -- at this point i can only run automated queries for lead and supporting performers on primetime network series.dr. tv (mike vicic)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07565772066297951029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14951746.post-1150257125363415982006-06-13T20:52:00.000-07:002006-06-13T20:52:00.000-07:00I think Eckholdt was also in THAT'S LIFE and recur...I think Eckholdt was also in THAT'S LIFE and recurred on lots of series, like HALF AND HALF and LIFE GOES ON, not to mention a bunch of busted pilots.Lee Goldberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13442268370192897461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14951746.post-1150222605799287742006-06-13T11:16:00.000-07:002006-06-13T11:16:00.000-07:00hi lee,i show Eckholdt having a robust six series ...hi lee,<BR/><BR/>i show Eckholdt having a robust six series kills:<BR/>- ''WIOU'' (CBS, 1990; 13)<BR/>- ''Grapevine'' (CBS, 1992; 6)<BR/>- ''The Monroes'' (ABC, 1995; 5)<BR/>- ''It's Like You Know'' (ABC, 1999; 19)<BR/>- ''Grapevine'' (CBS, 2000; 5)<BR/>- ''My Big Fat Greek Life'' (CBS, 2003; 7)<BR/><BR/>do you know of other shows? there is a pretty long list of performers with six series kills. too long for me to verify my initial research and post.dr. tv (mike vicic)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07565772066297951029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14951746.post-1150221906200814382006-06-13T11:05:00.000-07:002006-06-13T11:05:00.000-07:00i think clooney had more failed pilots than short-...i think clooney had more failed pilots than short-lived series, and, of course, he's infamous for ''Sunset Beat.'' i show these clooney series kills before ''ER.''<BR/><BR/>- ''E/R'' (CBS, 1984; 22)<BR/>- ''Sunset Beat'' (ABC, 1990; 2)<BR/>- ''Bodies of Evidence'' (CBS, 1992; 16)<BR/><BR/>And he snuck in the first season of ''Baby Talk'' (ABC, 1991; 35). i'll leave it up to you (as with gedrick) whether to count such series as series kills.dr. tv (mike vicic)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07565772066297951029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14951746.post-1150220701118777022006-06-13T10:45:00.000-07:002006-06-13T10:45:00.000-07:00What about Steven Eckholdt...surely he has at leas...What about Steven Eckholdt...surely he has at least seven flops to his credit (not counting his unsold pilots).Lee Goldberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13442268370192897461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14951746.post-1150213599174732392006-06-13T08:46:00.000-07:002006-06-13T08:46:00.000-07:00i think everyone might define a Show Kill a little...i think everyone might define a Show Kill a little differently, and no definition is more correct than any another.<BR/><BR/>my definition is a bit self-serving. i have not yet entered all busted pilots and their casts into my database.dr. tv (mike vicic)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07565772066297951029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14951746.post-1150210199764662042006-06-13T07:49:00.000-07:002006-06-13T07:49:00.000-07:00I actually think 'shot but not picked up' pilots d...I actually think 'shot but not picked up' pilots do count... because the same names lead this category. <BR/><BR/>I know of at least 3 pilots Miss Marshall starred in that never even made it to air. <BR/><BR/>When you add these to the shows that aired, it tells me that these people are getting more chances than Steve Howe did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com